[Tf-aai] [eduGAIN-discuss]GÉANTTrust and Identity Meeting

André Moreira andre at clarin.eu
Tue Nov 7 20:01:19 CET 2017


Hello everybody,

 For the CLARIN office representation, I will be attending the Trust and Identity Meeting in Amsterdam on both days.
 Please let me know if there are issues you would like me to keep a closer eye on or to mention during the meeting.

André



> On 6 Nov 2017, at 18:39, Martin Matthiesen <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi> wrote:
> 
> Hello Dieter,
> 
> I think it would be good if CLARIN would be present. I know that Elixir is continuing to work on a AAI solution that is somewhere between the CLARIN homeless IdP and an attribute aggregator for existing University accounts in case of attribute release problems. I don't know if they are presenting at the meeting, but Mikael Linden asked me once whether CLARIN could use their solution. It turned out the only possible obstacle was the scope: @lifescienceid.org.
> 
> Any input from other members of the taskforce?
> 
> Martin
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dieter Van Uytvanck" <dieter at clarin.eu>
>> To: "Jozef Mišutka" <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Martin Matthiesen" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
>> Cc: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>, "spf" <spf at clarin.eu>
>> Sent: Monday, 6 November, 2017 12:23:45
>> Subject: Re: [Tf-aai] Fwd: [eduGAIN-discuss]GÉANTTrust and Identity Meeting
> 
>> Thanks for notifying us. I cannot go on those dates but maybe André
>> could - will discuss it with him.
>> 
>> Dieter
>> 
>> On 06/11/2017 11:10, Jozef Misutka wrote:
>>> I do not plan to attend either but because it is in Amsterdam maybe
>>> someone from the CLARIN office could attend.
>>> 
>>> Few things that caught my interest lately:
>>> - the new newsletter for SPs from surfconext [1];
>>> - the heated discussion about the new approaches in inter-federation
>>> where sharing metadata in a central location of > 2500 entities is
>>> becoming problematic [2];
>>> - whether the model of AAI infrastructure hosted by a big player like
>>> GEANT is a myth or ... But imagine other big infrastructures paying to
>>> keep theirs (more complex) AAI up and running Elixir/... Some entities
>>> already get funding for similar tasks e.g., GEANT/eduGAIN so why not
>>> make them being responsible also for the end products (because we know
>>> it is very difficult to make a usable one out of it). And lastly, I have
>>> already mentioned this a few times but imho CLARIN SPF could be used by
>>> other infrastructures easily.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> https://list.surfnet.nl/pipermail/surfconext-sp-newsletter/20171027/thread.html
>>> <https://list.surfnet.nl/pipermail/surfconext-sp-newsletter/20171027/thread.html>
>>> (not very user friend version though)
>>> [2] starting
>>> around https://lists.refeds.org/sympa/arc/refeds/2017-11/msg00011.html
>>> <https://lists.refeds.org/sympa/arc/refeds/2017-11/msg00011.html>
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Jozef
>>> 
>>> On 3 November 2017 at 16:44, Martin Matthiesen <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>>> <mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Dear Taskforce,
>>> 
>>>    It seems this is a meeting at least one of us should attend. There
>>>    is not much time to formulate a common CLARIN opinion on say
>>>    eduGAIN. And at least from my perspective eduGAIN starts slowly
>>>    working. Should we have a meeting on this topic? Is anyone of you
>>>    going? As of yet I do not plan to attend, I have been travelling
>>>    quite a bit lately. But I would like the CLARIN voice be heard there.
>>> 
>>>    Martin
>>> 
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>>>    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>    *From: *"Nicole Harris" <nicole.harris at geant.org
>>>    <mailto:nicole.harris at geant.org>>
>>>    *To: *refeds at lists.refeds.org <mailto:refeds at lists.refeds.org>,
>>>    fim4r-members at cern.ch <mailto:fim4r-members at cern.ch>,
>>>    aarc2 at lists.geant.org <mailto:aarc2 at lists.geant.org>,
>>>    gn4-2-jra3-all at lists.geant.org
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>>>    *Sent: *Thursday, 2 November, 2017 12:51:41
>>>    *Subject: *[eduGAIN-discuss]GÉANTTrust and Identity Meeting
>>> 
>>>    Dear All
>>> 
>>>    GÉANT warmly welcomes you to an open Trust and Identity Meeting from
>>>    7th - 8th December 2017 in Amsterdam.  This meeting will bring
>>>    together three events - the final public consultation on the future
>>>    GÉANT Project workplan for trust and identity (2019 and beyond), an
>>>    eduGAIN TownHall and the REFEDS 2018 workplan meeting. This meeting
>>>    is open to anyone with an interest in Trust and Identity, including
>>>    but not limited to GN4 project participants and NRENs, eduGAIN SG
>>>    members, eduroam participants, FIM4R members, REFEDS participants
>>>    and AARC project participants. The GÉANT project workplan will be
>>>    looking in detail at future requirements for eduGAIN, eduroam and
>>>    related T&I developments.
>>> 
>>>    Registration is open at: https://eventr.geant.org/events/2786
>>>    <https://eventr.geant.org/events/2786>.
>>> 
>>>    Please do let us know if you have any questions.
>>> 
>>>    Nicole
>>> 
>>>    --
>>> 
>>>    *Nicole Harris*
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Dieter Van Uytvanck
>> Technical Director CLARIN ERIC
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