[Tf-aai] Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting Tue, 22. March 2016 10-11 CET

[Martin Matthiesen]

Hello,

I hope you all can make it on Tuesday, 22.3.2016 10-11 CET

Let's meet here:

https://connect.funet.fi/kielipankki/

I had some trouble writing to clarin.eu, I will send the final agenda latest next week Monday.

Cheers,
Martin


-- 
Martin Matthiesen
CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
CSC - IT Center for Science
PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
+358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
Public key : https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
> Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2016 15:07:22
> Subject: Re: [Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016

> Hello,
> 
> So far I got 2 responses. It seems Mon/Tue next week look promising.
> If you haven't yet, please fill in the doodle by tommorow evening:
> 
> http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu
> 
> Regards,
> Martin
> 
> 
> --
> Martin Matthiesen
> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
> CSC - IT Center for Science
> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
> Public key : https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
>> To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
>> Sent: Friday, 11 March, 2016 18:18:53
>> Subject: [Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016
> 
>> Dear Taskforce Members,
>> 
>> We agreed the last meeting to have more frequent and shorter meetings more
>> focussed on one topic. My appologies that that has not happened. I think a
>> focused meeting relevant to most of us would be good. I suggest the following 2
>> topics:
>> 
>> * Entity Category for Clarin SPs in eduGAIN
>> 
>> Wolfgang Pempe from DFN-AAI suggests an entity category Clarin SPs to make
>> Attribute Release easier. Originally this was designed to work within Germany
>> but it could be expanded to eduGAIN. There were some discussions with Sander
>> that we should use mdrpi:PublicationPath instead to mark SPs as being
>> registered with SPF and therefore as Clarin SPs.
>> 
>> Some comments: Marking SPs as relevant for Clarin might psychologically help
>> with Attribute Release but does not really imply that personal data is safer
>> with Clarin SPs than with any other SP. But pushing for earmarking our SPs
>> might again stress the fact that working AAI becomes more and more relevant.
>> 
>> * Information sharing: Any news from you? Please let me know, I would like to
>> add them as one liner to the agenda.
>> 
>> Here are news from my part:
>> 
>> * HZSK Hamburg is working on their own SP and at the same time seems to have
>> managed to get the University to setup an IdP. Timm might have details.
>> * CSC has developed a Shibboleth based error page for missing attributes, I am
>> currently beta-testing it. The page will be working with shibboleth-sp for
>> Apache. The idea is to have the attribute checking happening before the
>> application level and therefore make it easier to admins to provide better
>> guidance in case of missing attributes, without having to touch application
>> code.
>> * The NCF has expressed the wish that Clarin taskforces should work together
>> with relevant Dariah taskforces. With AAI this certainly makes sense. I haven't
>> reached out yet, though.
>> 
>> Please mark your times here:
>> http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu
>> 
>> I would like to stay under an hour, but some flexibility would be nice, since we
>> haven't met for a while.
>> 
>> Have a nice weekend, hope to see you soon!
>> 
>> Martin
>> 
>> P.S.: Some anecdotes for the weekend:
>> 
>> 1) Europe's eastern most university and eduGAIN [1]
>> 
>> A student from University of Eastern Finland asked for a Clarin IdP account
>> because he could not use a Clarin Service in Norway. Dieter told me about it
>> and I tried to help them figure out the problem. It turned out it was in
>> Norway, on the SP side. But when I asked IdP admins to consider eduGAIN and the
>> Code of Conduct the answer was: "We don't really see the need." They did not
>> realize that the scenario at hand was just that need. And of course there was
>> no immediate need, because the Norwegian SP was registered with Haka via SPF...
>> 
>> 2) Connecting Europe's northern most university [2]
>> 29.1. A user from UiT Tromsø wants to use Kielipankki.
>> 1.2. Feide sends me a list of personal emails that apparently can do something
>> about it. I contact them.
>> 2.2. No reply, I ask the user to request Attribute Release with her local help
>> desk. She does so 3.2.
>> 8.3. I also contact UiT's helpdesk
>> 23.2. Nothing happened. I ask the user.
>> 24.2. She forwards me the email she got from the admins. They don't really know
>> how to do this.
>> 8.3. She finally gets confirmation from the admins that Kielipankki is
>> registered with their IdP.
>> 11.3. I ask her to test the connection. At least I get a login window.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://www.uef.fi/en/uef/introduction (they sort of omit that their 3
>> campuses are about 150km apart from each other)
>> [2] https://en.uit.no/startsida
>> 
>> --
>> Martin Matthiesen
>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>> Public key : https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
>> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704
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