[Tf-aai] Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting Tue, 22. March 2016 10-11 CET

Mon Mar 21 12:37:19 CET 2016

Hi Martin,

Just returned from vacation. I've put the slot in my calendar.
It may be workable/best to use a meeting page on Trac. Advantages are that
everyone of us can edit such pages, that they are easy to find via the Trac
index etc. Since meeting pages are essentially internal documentation but
not private/confidential, there is limited advantage of putting it on
www.clarin.eu/spf, still the default place for SPF/AAI info. I've just
created https://trac.clarin.eu/wiki/Taskforces/AAI/Meetings/2016-03-22

One can create new meeting pages according to a template:
https://trac.clarin.eu/wiki/Taskforces/AAI/Meetings?action=edit&template=Meeting
The template is still young and basic, everyone can improve it.

Best,
Sander
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Martin Matthiesen <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I hope you all can make it on Tuesday, 22.3.2016 10-11 CET
>
> Let's meet here:
>
> https://connect.funet.fi/kielipankki/
>
> I had some trouble writing to clarin.eu, I will send the final agenda
> latest next week Monday.
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
> --
> Martin Matthiesen
> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
> CSC - IT Center for Science
> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> > To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
> > Sent: Monday, 14 March, 2016 15:07:22
> > Subject: Re: [Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > So far I got 2 responses. It seems Mon/Tue next week look promising.
> > If you haven't yet, please fill in the doodle by tommorow evening:
> >
> > http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu
> >
> > Regards,
> > Martin
> >
> >
> > --
> > Martin Matthiesen
> > CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
> > CSC - IT Center for Science
> > PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
> > +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
> > Public key :
> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
> > Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> >> To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
> >> Sent: Friday, 11 March, 2016 18:18:53
> >> Subject: [Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016
> >
> >> Dear Taskforce Members,
> >>
> >> We agreed the last meeting to have more frequent and shorter meetings
> more
> >> focussed on one topic. My appologies that that has not happened. I
> think a
> >> focused meeting relevant to most of us would be good. I suggest the
> following 2
> >> topics:
> >>
> >> * Entity Category for Clarin SPs in eduGAIN
> >>
> >> Wolfgang Pempe from DFN-AAI suggests an entity category Clarin SPs to
> make
> >> Attribute Release easier. Originally this was designed to work within
> Germany
> >> but it could be expanded to eduGAIN. There were some discussions with
> Sander
> >> that we should use mdrpi:PublicationPath instead to mark SPs as being
> >> registered with SPF and therefore as Clarin SPs.
> >>
> >> Some comments: Marking SPs as relevant for Clarin might psychologically
> help
> >> with Attribute Release but does not really imply that personal data is
> safer
> >> with Clarin SPs than with any other SP. But pushing for earmarking our
> SPs
> >> might again stress the fact that working AAI becomes more and more
> relevant.
> >>
> >> * Information sharing: Any news from you? Please let me know, I would
> like to
> >> add them as one liner to the agenda.
> >>
> >> Here are news from my part:
> >>
> >> * HZSK Hamburg is working on their own SP and at the same time seems to
> have
> >> managed to get the University to setup an IdP. Timm might have details.
> >> * CSC has developed a Shibboleth based error page for missing
> attributes, I am
> >> currently beta-testing it. The page will be working with shibboleth-sp
> for
> >> Apache. The idea is to have the attribute checking happening before the
> >> application level and therefore make it easier to admins to provide
> better
> >> guidance in case of missing attributes, without having to touch
> application
> >> code.
> >> * The NCF has expressed the wish that Clarin taskforces should work
> together
> >> with relevant Dariah taskforces. With AAI this certainly makes sense. I
> haven't
> >> reached out yet, though.
> >>
> >> Please mark your times here:
> >> http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu
> >>
> >> I would like to stay under an hour, but some flexibility would be nice,
> since we
> >> haven't met for a while.
> >>
> >> Have a nice weekend, hope to see you soon!
> >>
> >> Martin
> >>
> >> P.S.: Some anecdotes for the weekend:
> >>
> >> 1) Europe's eastern most university and eduGAIN [1]
> >>
> >> A student from University of Eastern Finland asked for a Clarin IdP
> account
> >> because he could not use a Clarin Service in Norway. Dieter told me
> about it
> >> and I tried to help them figure out the problem. It turned out it was in
> >> Norway, on the SP side. But when I asked IdP admins to consider eduGAIN
> and the
> >> Code of Conduct the answer was: "We don't really see the need." They
> did not
> >> realize that the scenario at hand was just that need. And of course
> there was
> >> no immediate need, because the Norwegian SP was registered with Haka
> via SPF...
> >>
> >> 2) Connecting Europe's northern most university [2]
> >> 29.1. A user from UiT Tromsø wants to use Kielipankki.
> >> 1.2. Feide sends me a list of personal emails that apparently can do
> something
> >> about it. I contact them.
> >> 2.2. No reply, I ask the user to request Attribute Release with her
> local help
> >> desk. She does so 3.2.
> >> 8.3. I also contact UiT's helpdesk
> >> 23.2. Nothing happened. I ask the user.
> >> 24.2. She forwards me the email she got from the admins. They don't
> really know
> >> how to do this.
> >> 8.3. She finally gets confirmation from the admins that Kielipankki is
> >> registered with their IdP.
> >> 11.3. I ask her to test the connection. At least I get a login window.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [1] http://www.uef.fi/en/uef/introduction (they sort of omit that
> their 3
> >> campuses are about 150km apart from each other)
> >> [2] https://en.uit.no/startsida
> >>
> >> --
> >> Martin Matthiesen
> >> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
> >> CSC - IT Center for Science
> >> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
> >> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
> >> Public key :
> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
> >> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704
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