[Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016

[Martin Matthiesen]

Hello,

So far I got 2 responses. It seems Mon/Tue next week look promising.
If you haven't yet, please fill in the doodle by tommorow evening:

http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu

Regards,
Martin


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Martin Matthiesen
CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
CSC - IT Center for Science
PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
+358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
> Sent: Friday, 11 March, 2016 18:18:53
> Subject: [Tf-aai] Doodle: Clarin AAI Taskforce Meeting March 2016

> Dear Taskforce Members,
> 
> We agreed the last meeting to have more frequent and shorter meetings more
> focussed on one topic. My appologies that that has not happened. I think a
> focused meeting relevant to most of us would be good. I suggest the following 2
> topics:
> 
> * Entity Category for Clarin SPs in eduGAIN
> 
> Wolfgang Pempe from DFN-AAI suggests an entity category Clarin SPs to make
> Attribute Release easier. Originally this was designed to work within Germany
> but it could be expanded to eduGAIN. There were some discussions with Sander
> that we should use mdrpi:PublicationPath instead to mark SPs as being
> registered with SPF and therefore as Clarin SPs.
> 
> Some comments: Marking SPs as relevant for Clarin might psychologically help
> with Attribute Release but does not really imply that personal data is safer
> with Clarin SPs than with any other SP. But pushing for earmarking our SPs
> might again stress the fact that working AAI becomes more and more relevant.
> 
> * Information sharing: Any news from you? Please let me know, I would like to
> add them as one liner to the agenda.
> 
> Here are news from my part:
> 
> * HZSK Hamburg is working on their own SP and at the same time seems to have
> managed to get the University to setup an IdP. Timm might have details.
> * CSC has developed a Shibboleth based error page for missing attributes, I am
> currently beta-testing it. The page will be working with shibboleth-sp for
> Apache. The idea is to have the attribute checking happening before the
> application level and therefore make it easier to admins to provide better
> guidance in case of missing attributes, without having to touch application
> code.
> * The NCF has expressed the wish that Clarin taskforces should work together
> with relevant Dariah taskforces. With AAI this certainly makes sense. I haven't
> reached out yet, though.
> 
> Please mark your times here:
> http://doodle.com/poll/4qd9e96s3y9giywu
> 
> I would like to stay under an hour, but some flexibility would be nice, since we
> haven't met for a while.
> 
> Have a nice weekend, hope to see you soon!
> 
> Martin
> 
> P.S.: Some anecdotes for the weekend:
> 
> 1) Europe's eastern most university and eduGAIN [1]
> 
> A student from University of Eastern Finland asked for a Clarin IdP account
> because he could not use a Clarin Service in Norway. Dieter told me about it
> and I tried to help them figure out the problem. It turned out it was in
> Norway, on the SP side. But when I asked IdP admins to consider eduGAIN and the
> Code of Conduct the answer was: "We don't really see the need." They did not
> realize that the scenario at hand was just that need. And of course there was
> no immediate need, because the Norwegian SP was registered with Haka via SPF...
> 
> 2) Connecting Europe's northern most university [2]
> 29.1. A user from UiT Tromsø wants to use Kielipankki.
> 1.2. Feide sends me a list of personal emails that apparently can do something
> about it. I contact them.
> 2.2. No reply, I ask the user to request Attribute Release with her local help
> desk. She does so 3.2.
> 8.3. I also contact UiT's helpdesk
> 23.2. Nothing happened. I ask the user.
> 24.2. She forwards me the email she got from the admins. They don't really know
> how to do this.
> 8.3. She finally gets confirmation from the admins that Kielipankki is
> registered with their IdP.
> 11.3. I ask her to test the connection. At least I get a login window.
> 
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.uef.fi/en/uef/introduction (they sort of omit that their 3
> campuses are about 150km apart from each other)
> [2] https://en.uit.no/startsida
> 
> --
> Martin Matthiesen
> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
> CSC - IT Center for Science
> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
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