[Tf-aai] AAI Statistics from Finland

Mon Sep 4 13:14:12 CEST 2017

Hello Jozef and Taskforce, 

I limited this reply to "us" since I would like to suggest a discussion topic for our not-yet-planned AAI Taskforce meeting: 

* Promoting present efforts: 

I think more services should join Lindat's aagreg and more services should also adopt the already mentioned Error Page that makes it easier for end users to talk to their IdP. I would like to know whether you all deem these steps important and if so I would like to agree on an implementation time table. 

My motivation is that I did think of Lindat's Aaggreg to mention for Francesca, but thought it might also look bad that relatively few CLARIN cetres are registered and some have very low login counts. This might be due to largely free content, so it is not always a negative sign, But I had no time to investigate that. 

So what do others think, would this be a reason to request a TF meeting in Budapest? 

Regards, 
Martin 

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CSC - IT Center for Science 
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> From: "Jozef Mišutka" <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>
> To: "Francesca Frontini" <francescafrontini at gmail.com>
> Cc: "Martin Matthiesen" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>, "Krister Lindén"
> <krister.linden at helsinki.fi>, "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>, "Tero Aalto"
> <tero.aalto at csc.fi>, "Bente Maegaard" <bmaegaard at hum.ku.dk>
> Sent: Monday, 4 September, 2017 13:27:21
> Subject: Re: [Tf-aai] AAI Statistics from Finland

> Dear Francesca,
> we keep a list of IdPs used to access CLARIN's resources hosted at nine service
> providers (those that joined the Attribute Aggregator service) at [
> https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/services/aaggreg/idps_map.html |
> https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/services/aaggreg/idps_map.html ]
> This counts 274 IdPs from all over the world to this day which is quite
> impressive (please note that we started to gather the joint statistics only
> last year). However, the IdP list also includes a few non CLARIN SPF ones
> (eduGAIN ones).

> We also have detailed statistics but unless you are AAI guru, it might be
> difficult to interpret. Go to
> [ https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/services/aaggreg/# |
> https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/services/aaggreg/# ] and click on Statistics

> Best,
> Jozef

> On 2 September 2017 at 13:46, Francesca Frontini < [
> mailto:francescafrontini at gmail.com | francescafrontini at gmail.com ] > wrote:

>> Wow,
>> you do have nice resources in Italian!
>> Maybe after the tour of Clarin by country we should have a tour of Clarin by
>> language....
>> have a nice week end,
>> Francesca

>> 2017-09-01 18:13 GMT+02:00 Martin Matthiesen < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>> | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] > :

>>> Hello Francesca,

>>>> From: "Francesca Frontini" < [ mailto:francescafrontini at gmail.com |
>>>> francescafrontini at gmail.com ] >
>>>> To: "Martin Matthiesen" < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi |
>>>> martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] >
>>>> Cc: "tf-aai" < [ mailto:tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu | tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu ] >,
>>>> "Bente Maegaard" < [ mailto:bmaegaard at hum.ku.dk | bmaegaard at hum.ku.dk ] >,
>>>> "Tero Aalto" < [ mailto:tero.aalto at csc.fi | tero.aalto at csc.fi ] >, "Krister
>>>> Lindén" < [ mailto:krister.linden at helsinki.fi | krister.linden at helsinki.fi ] >
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 31 August, 2017 11:51:00
>>>> Subject: Re: AAI Statistics from Finland

>>>> Thank you very much Martin!
>>>> It was very nice of you to get these stats...
>>>> To be honest, I was hoping for a bit more Italian or French users, but... ;)

>>> I am not overly surprised that The Language Bank of Finland is not the killer
>>> service for Italy and France in Terms of AAI. What I think the list shows is
>>> that restricted content relevant outiside of Finland (like Swahili [1], or
>>> "ScottCorr" [2]) AAI does help. I can only encourage all to have a look again
>>> at this page: [
>>> https://wiki.edugain.org/How_to_configure_Shibboleth_SP_attribute_checker |
>>> https://wiki.edugain.org/How_to_configure_Shibboleth_SP_attribute_checker ] It
>>> has been a great help in making IDPs sending attributes, since the system
>>> prompts reporting from interested users, but the generated content has all
>>> relevant information for an admin.

>>> Have a nice weekend!

>>> Martin

>>> P.S.: We just published Italian content [3], but "CC BY SA", so no need for AAI.
>>> And I don't think we should restrict content to get AAI going ;-)

>>> [1] [ http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-2014032624 |
>>> http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-2014032624 ]
>>> [2] [ http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-201411071 |
>>> http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-201411071 ]
>>> [3] [ http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-2016031701 |
>>> http://urn.fi/urn:nbn:fi:lb-2016031701 ]

>>>> But you are right, the example of the Helsinki Corpus of Swahili and its German
>>>> enthusiastic users is a nice one, and we should try to fit it in!

>>>> Thanks again for now, and all the best,
>>>> Francesca

>>>> 2017-08-30 16:02 GMT+02:00 Martin Matthiesen < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>>>> | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] > :

>>>>> Hello Francesca,

>>>>> Great to see you are still with us! I gathered some stats from our most used
>>>>> service "Korp" ( [ http://korp.csc.fi/ | korp.csc.fi ] ). I hope you find them
>>>>> useful.
>>>>> They are straight from the logs from the time frame: 21.2.2016 - 30.8.2017

>>>>> The list shows page hits of authenticated users sorted by home organisation.
>>>>> Authentication is needed for CLARIN ACA and CLARIN RES resources. Applications
>>>>> for RES resources can be placed using [ http://lbr.csc.fi/ | lbr.csc.fi ] , ACA
>>>>> resources can be accessed directly if the home organisation transmits
>>>>> affiliation = member or "ACA status" can be requested via [ http://lbr.csc.fi/
>>>>> | lbr.csc.fi ] .

>>>>> While page hits is not the greatest metric, it shows to some extend how active
>>>>> logged in users are. I think the results are quite interesting. While Finland
>>>>> dominates, 3. place goes to U Regensburg, they are heavily using our Helsinki
>>>>> Corpus of Swahili (CLARIN ACA).
>>>>> Also [ http://clarin.eu/ | clarin.eu ] (the CLARIN IDP) is in the top 10 just
>>>>> followed by a US University. While [ http://csc.fi/ | csc.fi ] denotes CSC
>>>>> Staff, [ http://ext.csc.fi/ | ext.csc.fi ] is a now discontinued homeless IDP,
>>>>> it's role has been taken over by [ http://clarin.eu/ | clarin.eu ] and " [
>>>>> http://eduuni.fi/ | eduuni.fi ] " a Finnish AAI solution that allows users also
>>>>> to register using social media accounts. They can use our services only via
>>>>> separate application, where we have to check their identity separately.

>>>>> I cc Bente the AAI Taskforce and Tero and Krister, hoping they also find the
>>>>> statistics interesting. I cannot give you Weblicht statistics, maybe Thorsten
>>>>> Trippel in Tübingen can help you with that.

>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Martin

>>>>> Service: [ http://korp.csc.fi/ | korp.csc.fi ]
>>>>> Time frame: 21.2.2016 - 30.8.2017
>>>>> Page hits by home organisation ordered by first column.

>>>>> 150319 [ http://helsinki.fi/ | helsinki.fi ]
>>>>> 35958 [ http://uta.fi/ | uta.fi ]
>>>>> 28068 [ http://ur.de/ | ur.de ]
>>>>> 17168 [ http://utu.fi/ | utu.fi ]
>>>>> 13572 [ http://user.uu.se/ | user.uu.se ]
>>>>> 12286 [ http://jyu.fi/ | jyu.fi ]
>>>>> 9914 [ http://csc.fi/ | csc.fi ]
>>>>> 7568 [ http://oulu.fi/ | oulu.fi ]
>>>>> 6467 [ http://clarin.eu/ | clarin.eu ]
>>>>> 4820 [ http://unc.edu/ | unc.edu ]
>>>>> 3784 [ http://ed.ac.uk/ | ed.ac.uk ]
>>>>> 3386 [ http://ext.csc.fi/ | ext.csc.fi ]
>>>>> 2414 [ http://uef.fi/ | uef.fi ]
>>>>> 1999 [ http://aalto.fi/ | aalto.fi ]
>>>>> 1787 [ http://eduuni.fi/ | eduuni.fi ]
>>>>> 1643 [ http://su.se/ | su.se ]
>>>>> 1138 [ http://uni-koeln.de/ | uni-koeln.de ]
>>>>> 862 [ http://uit.no/ | uit.no ]
>>>>> 772 [ http://ulapland.fi/ | ulapland.fi ]
>>>>> 708 [ http://tut.fi/ | tut.fi ]
>>>>> 610 [ http://uni-bremen.de/ | uni-bremen.de ]
>>>>> 397 [ http://elte.hu/ | elte.hu ]
>>>>> 374 [ http://umail.leidenuniv.nl/ | umail.leidenuniv.nl ]
>>>>> 359 [ http://stanford.edu/ | stanford.edu ]
>>>>> 354 [ http://iu.edu/ | iu.edu ]
>>>>> 320 [ http://metropolia.fi/ | metropolia.fi ]
>>>>> 282 [ http://washington.edu/ | washington.edu ]
>>>>> 278 [ http://uni-hamburg.de/ | uni-hamburg.de ]
>>>>> 266 [ http://cuni.cz/ | cuni.cz ]
>>>>> 209 [ http://uva.nl/ | uva.nl ]
>>>>> 209 [ http://arcada.fi/ | arcada.fi ]
>>>>> 198 [ http://gla.ac.uk/ | gla.ac.uk ]
>>>>> 192 [ http://gu.se/ | gu.se ]
>>>>> 185 [ http://uwasa.fi/ | uwasa.fi ]
>>>>> 182 [ http://uni-greifswald.de/ | uni-greifswald.de ]
>>>>> 154 [ http://lmu.de/ | lmu.de ]
>>>>> 141 [ http://humak.fi/ | humak.fi ]
>>>>> 138 [ http://ku.dk/ | ku.dk ]
>>>>> 135 [ http://dariah.eu/ | dariah.eu ]
>>>>> 125 [ http://turkuamk.fi/ | turkuamk.fi ]
>>>>> 83 [ http://abo.fi/ | abo.fi ]
>>>>> 66 [ http://uib.no/ | uib.no ]
>>>>> 58 [ http://cam.ac.uk/ | cam.ac.uk ]
>>>>> 44 [ http://ijs.si/ | ijs.si ]
>>>>> 34 [ http://soliscom.uu.nl/ | soliscom.uu.nl ]
>>>>> 33 [ http://ids-mannheim.de/ | ids-mannheim.de ]
>>>>> 30 [ http://vub.ac.be/ | vub.ac.be ]
>>>>> 28 [ http://uzh.ch/ | uzh.ch ]
>>>>> 24 [ http://kuleuven.be/ | kuleuven.be ]
>>>>> 15 [ http://fccn.pt/ | fccn.pt ]
>>>>> 15 [ http://arizona.edu/ | arizona.edu ]
>>>>> 10 [ http://hanken.fi/ | hanken.fi ]
>>>>> 7 [ http://oamk.fi/ | oamk.fi ]
>>>>> 7 [ http://mamk.fi/ | mamk.fi ]
>>>>> 7 [ http://johnshopkins.edu/ | johnshopkins.edu ]
>>>>> 6 [ http://illinois.edu/ | illinois.edu ]
>>>>> 5 [ http://georgetown.edu/ | georgetown.edu ]

>>>>> --
>>>>> Martin Matthiesen
>>>>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>>>>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>>>>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>>>>> [ tel:+358%209%204572376 | +358 9 457 2376 ] , [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>>>>> | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ]
>>>>> Public key : [ https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 |
>>>>> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 ]
>>>>> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704

>>>>>> From: "Francesca Frontini" < [ mailto:francescafrontini at gmail.com |
>>>>>> francescafrontini at gmail.com ] >
>>>>>> To: "Martin Matthiesen" < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi |
>>>>>> martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] >
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 28 August, 2017 16:25:14
>>>>>> Subject: from Montpellier

>>>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>>> hope this email finds you well. I'm writing from Montpellier, where I've been
>>>>>> working now for one year.
>>>>>> In fact it seems that my relationship with CLARIN is not over yet, and I am
>>>>>> getting a bit involved in the French side.

>>>>>> Next week I'm giving a presentation, with Bente and other people, to illustrate
>>>>>> the activities of the various CLARIN consortia to the French community.

>>>>>> One of the things I'd like to underline is the fact that thanks to AAI national
>>>>>> communities get easy access to services that are currently restricted .

>>>>>> Do you think it would be possible to have some statistics of the accesses to
>>>>>> restricted services such as Weblicht and the like from the different member
>>>>>> countries?

>>>>>> Thank you very much in advance!
>>>>>> ciao ciao
>>>>>> Francesca

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