[Tf-aai] CLARIN AAI TF: No meeting for now

Fri Aug 7 14:48:48 CEST 2015

Hello there,

I got another 2 replies and there is no free time slot left. So I'll try again in a few weeks. Sorry to those who took the time to answer.

A nice weekend to you all!

Martin

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> To: "tf-aai" <tf-aai at lists.clarin.eu>
> Sent: Tuesday, 4 August, 2015 15:33:54
> Subject: [Tf-aai] CLARIN AAI TF: New time

> Hello,
> 
> Setting up this meeting seems a challenge during the holiday season. To bypass
> some of WhenIsGood's limitations, here's the result page so far:
> 
> http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t/results/jc4k5h3 (I trust you to not edit this
> event).
> 
> Mark your times here: http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t
> 
> Here's the updated agenda, I left the EC issue in, we can throw it out at the
> beginning of the meeting:
> 
> https://www.clarin.eu/group-page/aai-tf-vc-meeting-2015-08-xx
> 
> Sander, Jozef and Kai can we have the monitoring meeting on Monday 10.8.?
> 
> Regards,
> Martin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>
>> To: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
>> Cc: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>, "Jozef Misutka"
>> <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Dieter Van Uytvanck"
>> <dieter at clarin.eu>, "Kai Zimmer" <zimmer at bbaw.de>, "Mitchell Seaton"
>> <seaton at hum.ku.dk>, "Thomas Kisler"
>> <kisler at phonetik.uni-muenchen.de>, "Timm Lehmberg"
>> <timm.lehmberg at uni-hamburg.de>, "Oliver Schonefeld"
>> <schonefeld at ids-mannheim.de>, "Paul Meurer" <Paul.Meurer at uni.no>, "Lene
>> Offersgaard" <leneo at hum.ku.dk>, "Pavel Stranak"
>> <stranak at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Daan Broeder" <Daan.Broeder at meertens.knaw.nl>
>> Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2015 18:42:29
>> Subject: Re: CLARIN AAI TF VC 13.08.2015 10:00 CEST
> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> I have decided to reduce my working hours as from Augus: I will only be
>> available on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. So I've filled out the poll,
>> not exhaustively though.*
> 
> That artificially narrows down the possible times. I agree that WhenIsGood is
> not optimal and I am willing to look into alternatives, but artificially
> restricting the possible meeting times is not optimal either.
> 
> 
>> Is it optimal to have a separate ‘monitoring’ VC?
>> I believe we are all best served with a single VC and just keeping the time
>> spent dwelling on particular subjects manageable.
> 
> I would like to meet separately because I would like to get some idea on how we
> can get something up and running, that involves details likely not interesting
> to all.
> 
>> * In addition to the mailing list to keep things more manageable, can we
>> use a using a more time-efficient and accurate way to schedule
>> meetings/VCs?
> 
> Yes, sure, the link you sent looks interesting. But for it to work we all need
> to agree that we are going to use it.
> 
>> I think difficulty/time cost is also the reason why response to the AAI TF
>> invitations has been tardy and limited. To avoid double-booking a time slot
>> I have to tediously check my calendar against the poll slots. And perhaps
>> we would all be good for an early slot out of the polled range, only to
>> find that out after filling out the polls extensively.
> 
> The long list was a bit of an exception because of the holidays.
> 
>> (Note that Doodle
>> and some other meeting apps do not have problem there, unlike WhenIsGood.)
>> It's a process that I hope we can improve ASAP.
> 
> I am certainly not married to whenisgood.
> 
>> It appears there are far better services that can use availability
>> information from your digital calendar(s). See e.g. this:
>> https://youtu.be/bv6H7mTxxoo
>> And so I've joined this ScheduleOnce service and it seems to work very
>> well, and have a lot of functionality otherwise as well. I do not care much
>> about the subscription cost (just a few USD per month, for the organizer).
>> I do care a lot about not being distracted/wasting time and making
>> mistakes. Can we all agree on some better service, I suggest this one, to
>> schedule meetings/VCs?
> 
> I updated our agenda. There is certainly no point in making our lives
> unneccessarily difficult. My slight reservation with "integrated" services is:
> Will they work for all of us? (OS, favorite Browser, etc?) But: Unless we try
> we won't know.
> 
>> 
>> Final note: Daan Broeder is no longer with the MPI-PL, his new contact
>> details: http://www.meertens.knaw.nl/cms/en/medewerkers/144712-daanbr . I
>> have included him in the recipients as before.
> 
> Thanks for the update. As you noticed I added you all to the mailing list.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
>> Best,
>> Sander
>> --
>> *Sent as system administrator and engineer for CLARIN*
>> *Centre Registry & Service Provider Federation* @ {centres,infra}.clarin.eu;
>> *software engineering tools* @ {svn,trac}.clarin.eu;
>> *identity and access management* @ {user,idp}.clarin.eu
>> *usage statistics and service monitoring* @ stats.clarin.eu
>> 
>> Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics <https://tla.mpi.nl/>, software
>> developer
>> personal Skype: sander.maijers | work address: Wundtlaan 1, 6525 XD,
>> Nijmegen (NL)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Martin Matthiesen <
>> martin.matthiesen at csc.fi> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I got only 2 replies and based on that decided to have the VC on
>>>
>>> *Thursday, 13. August 2015 at 10 am CEST*.
>>>
>>> I hope this works for most of you. Those who have not, please still fill
>>> out the time questionaire
>>>
>>> http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t
>>>
>>> Kai, Jozef and Sander I hope we find a time before the 13th to have our
>>> monitoring meeting.
>>>
>>> I applied today for a Tf-AAI-mailing list, I hope this will make
>>> communication easier in the future.
>>>
>>> I'll be off on holiday the next 3 weeks, have a nice summer!
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Martin Matthiesen
>>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>>> +358 9 457 2376, martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>>> Public key :
>>> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704
>>> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F  BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
>>> > To: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>
>>> > Cc: "Jozef Misutka" <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Dieter Van Uytvanck" <
>>> dieter at clarin.eu>, "Kai Zimmer" <zimmer at bbaw.de>,
>>> > "Mitchell Seaton" <seaton at hum.ku.dk>, "Thomas Kisler" <
>>> kisler at phonetik.uni-muenchen.de>, "Timm Lehmberg"
>>> > <timm.lehmberg at uni-hamburg.de>, "Oliver Schonefeld" <
>>> schonefeld at ids-mannheim.de>, "Paul Meurer" <Paul.Meurer at uni.no>,
>>> > "Daan Broeder" <daan.broeder at mpi.nl>, "Lene Offersgaard" <
>>> leneo at hum.ku.dk>, "Pavel Stranak" <stranak at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>
>>> > Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2015 16:06:24
>>> > Subject: Re: CLARIN AAI TF VC August 2015 (& Monitoring VC)
>>>
>>> > Hello Sander,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for the extensive reply and all the work! If there is no need to
>>> discuss
>>> > an EC I'll take that topic off the agenda.
>>> >
>>> > The work towards central monitoring looks also very promising, thanks!
>>> >
>>> > I'll be on a course in Amsterdam Mon-Wed, but occasionally reading email.
>>> >
>>> > A nice weekend to you all!
>>> >
>>> > Martin
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