[Tf-aai] CLARIN AAI TF: New time

[Martin Matthiesen]

Hello,

Setting up this meeting seems a challenge during the holiday season. To bypass some of WhenIsGood's limitations, here's the result page so far:

http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t/results/jc4k5h3 (I trust you to not edit this event).

Mark your times here: http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t

Here's the updated agenda, I left the EC issue in, we can throw it out at the beginning of the meeting:

https://www.clarin.eu/group-page/aai-tf-vc-meeting-2015-08-xx

Sander, Jozef and Kai can we have the monitoring meeting on Monday 10.8.?

Regards,
Martin


----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>
> To: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> Cc: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>, "Jozef Misutka" <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Dieter Van Uytvanck"
> <dieter at clarin.eu>, "Kai Zimmer" <zimmer at bbaw.de>, "Mitchell Seaton" <seaton at hum.ku.dk>, "Thomas Kisler"
> <kisler at phonetik.uni-muenchen.de>, "Timm Lehmberg" <timm.lehmberg at uni-hamburg.de>, "Oliver Schonefeld"
> <schonefeld at ids-mannheim.de>, "Paul Meurer" <Paul.Meurer at uni.no>, "Lene Offersgaard" <leneo at hum.ku.dk>, "Pavel Stranak"
> <stranak at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Daan Broeder" <Daan.Broeder at meertens.knaw.nl>
> Sent: Friday, 10 July, 2015 18:42:29
> Subject: Re: CLARIN AAI TF VC 13.08.2015 10:00 CEST

> Hi Martin,
> 
> I have decided to reduce my working hours as from Augus: I will only be
> available on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. So I've filled out the poll,
> not exhaustively though.*

That artificially narrows down the possible times. I agree that WhenIsGood is not optimal and I am willing to look into alternatives, but artificially restricting the possible meeting times is not optimal either.


> Is it optimal to have a separate ‘monitoring’ VC?
> I believe we are all best served with a single VC and just keeping the time
> spent dwelling on particular subjects manageable.

I would like to meet separately because I would like to get some idea on how we can get something up and running, that involves details likely not interesting to all.

> * In addition to the mailing list to keep things more manageable, can we
> use a using a more time-efficient and accurate way to schedule
> meetings/VCs?

Yes, sure, the link you sent looks interesting. But for it to work we all need to agree that we are going to use it. 

> I think difficulty/time cost is also the reason why response to the AAI TF
> invitations has been tardy and limited. To avoid double-booking a time slot
> I have to tediously check my calendar against the poll slots. And perhaps
> we would all be good for an early slot out of the polled range, only to
> find that out after filling out the polls extensively.

The long list was a bit of an exception because of the holidays.

> (Note that Doodle
> and some other meeting apps do not have problem there, unlike WhenIsGood.)
> It's a process that I hope we can improve ASAP.

I am certainly not married to whenisgood.
 
> It appears there are far better services that can use availability
> information from your digital calendar(s). See e.g. this:
> https://youtu.be/bv6H7mTxxoo
> And so I've joined this ScheduleOnce service and it seems to work very
> well, and have a lot of functionality otherwise as well. I do not care much
> about the subscription cost (just a few USD per month, for the organizer).
> I do care a lot about not being distracted/wasting time and making
> mistakes. Can we all agree on some better service, I suggest this one, to
> schedule meetings/VCs?

I updated our agenda. There is certainly no point in making our lives unneccessarily difficult. My slight reservation with "integrated" services is: Will they work for all of us? (OS, favorite Browser, etc?) But: Unless we try we won't know.

> 
> Final note: Daan Broeder is no longer with the MPI-PL, his new contact
> details: http://www.meertens.knaw.nl/cms/en/medewerkers/144712-daanbr . I
> have included him in the recipients as before.

Thanks for the update. As you noticed I added you all to the mailing list.

Cheers,
Martin

> Best,
> Sander
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> 
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:00 PM, Martin Matthiesen <
> martin.matthiesen at csc.fi> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I got only 2 replies and based on that decided to have the VC on
>>
>> *Thursday, 13. August 2015 at 10 am CEST*.
>>
>> I hope this works for most of you. Those who have not, please still fill
>> out the time questionaire
>>
>> http://whenisgood.net/q5qwb2t
>>
>> Kai, Jozef and Sander I hope we find a time before the 13th to have our
>> monitoring meeting.
>>
>> I applied today for a Tf-AAI-mailing list, I hope this will make
>> communication easier in the future.
>>
>> I'll be off on holiday the next 3 weeks, have a nice summer!
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Martin" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
>> > To: "Sander Maijers" <sander at clarin.eu>
>> > Cc: "Jozef Misutka" <misutka at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>, "Dieter Van Uytvanck" <
>> dieter at clarin.eu>, "Kai Zimmer" <zimmer at bbaw.de>,
>> > "Mitchell Seaton" <seaton at hum.ku.dk>, "Thomas Kisler" <
>> kisler at phonetik.uni-muenchen.de>, "Timm Lehmberg"
>> > <timm.lehmberg at uni-hamburg.de>, "Oliver Schonefeld" <
>> schonefeld at ids-mannheim.de>, "Paul Meurer" <Paul.Meurer at uni.no>,
>> > "Daan Broeder" <daan.broeder at mpi.nl>, "Lene Offersgaard" <
>> leneo at hum.ku.dk>, "Pavel Stranak" <stranak at ufal.mff.cuni.cz>
>> > Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2015 16:06:24
>> > Subject: Re: CLARIN AAI TF VC August 2015 (& Monitoring VC)
>>
>> > Hello Sander,
>> >
>> > Thanks for the extensive reply and all the work! If there is no need to
>> discuss
>> > an EC I'll take that topic off the agenda.
>> >
>> > The work towards central monitoring looks also very promising, thanks!
>> >
>> > I'll be on a course in Amsterdam Mon-Wed, but occasionally reading email.
>> >
>> > A nice weekend to you all!
>> >
>> > Martin