<div dir="ltr">I think my last message didn't reach the list,<div>so I'm sending it again</div><div>-------</div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Dear Thomas, all</div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I see that this is still an open issue.... and I agree that my quick fix would be a bit too quick.</span><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br><div>Our problem is that ILC will be entering a lot of resources in the next months.</div><div>People will require from us guidance as to what to put in the Lindat interface under "project page".</div><div>In some cases they might want to put there the URL of the EU project that funded the construction of a given resource or other things like that.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Any suggestion?</div><div>We would like to keep a common policy for all centers using the LINDAT software.</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Another thing, in the our version of LINDAT the field "Demo URL" isn't generating any resource proxy in the resulting CMDI. </div><div>Maybe that would be a more suitable candidate ...</div><div><br></div><div>See this resource and its CMDI for reference.</div><div><a href="https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/repository/xmlui/handle/11234/1-1741" target="_blank">https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/repository/xmlui/handle/11234/1-1741</a></div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Francesca</div></div></div></div><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">-- </span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">Francesca Frontini</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">Istituto di Linguistica Computazionale "A. Zampolli" - ILC</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche - CNR</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">Via Moruzzi 1</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">56124 Pisa - Italy</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">tel: </span><a href="tel:%2B39%20050%20315%202852" value="+390503152852" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">+39 050 315 2864</a><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"> (direct)</span><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">fax: </span><a href="tel:%2B39%20050%20315%202839" value="+390503152839" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">+39 050 315 2839</a><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px">skype: </span><font color="#888888">francesca.frontini</font><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br style="color:rgb(136,136,136);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font color="#1155cc"><u><a href="http://www.ilc.cnr.it/it/content/francesca-frontini" target="_blank">http://www.ilc.cnr.it/it/content/francesca-frontini</a></u></font><br></div></div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-06-30 17:27 GMT+02:00 Francesca Frontini <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:francescafrontini@gmail.com" target="_blank">francescafrontini@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear Thomas, all</div>I see that this is still an open issue.... and I agree that my quick fix would be a bit too quick.<div><br><div>Our problem is that ILC will be entering a lot of resources in the next months.</div><div>People will require from us guidance as to what to put in the Lindat interface under "project page".</div><div>In some cases they might want to put there the URL of the EU project that funded the construction of a given resource or other things like that.</div><div><br></div><div><div>Any suggestion?</div><div>We would like to keep a common policy for all centers using the LINDAT software.</div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Another thing, in the our version of LINDAT the field "Demo URL" isn't generating any resource proxy in the resulting CMDI. </div><div>Maybe that would be a more suitable candidate ...</div><div><br></div><div>See this resource and its CMDI for reference.</div><div><a href="https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/repository/xmlui/handle/11234/1-1741" target="_blank">https://lindat.mff.cuni.cz/repository/xmlui/handle/11234/1-1741</a></div><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Francesca</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2016-06-30 16:47 GMT+02:00 Thomas Eckart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:teckart@informatik.uni-leipzig.de" target="_blank">teckart@informatik.uni-leipzig.de</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
For 2) in fact what I object most is not the lack of direct download but<br>
the use of what for lindat users is dubbed "project page".<br>
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I agree. A ResourceProxy of type "Resource" should normally point to the actual resource (like the concrete corpus, tool, webservices etc.).<span><br>
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So either we give a clear semantic to that field in our repo or my<br>
modest opinion is that I would rather see a link back to our repo on the<br>
resources icon if the vlo.<br>
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Once redirected to lindat-clarin or ilc4clarin, users can see all info<br>
including the license and download if the have the permission.<br>
What is your opinion of this solution?<br>
I saw other repos do this...<br>
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That is definitely one way to do it and already more helpful for the end user as the status quo for "Deltacorpus 1.1".<br>
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Nonetheless, I think that this not a good solution: the CMDI specification allows 5 types of ResourceProxys. A reference to the original context of the resource in its repository is already part of it ("LandingPage"). Right now this reference may not be prominent enough at the VLO record page (maybe we find a better solution?), but it is already there.<br>
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The "Resource"-typed ResourceProxys are defined (at least regarding the upcoming CMDI 1.2 specification) as references to "A resource that is described in the present CMDI instance, e.g. a text document, media file or tool.". If you don't want to directly link to the actual data, I guess omitting these ResourceProxys would be the standard-compliant way to go.<br>
I personally think that direct links to the data should be part of the resource description, because it increases the usefulness of the VLO for the end user and of the resource in the context of the whole infrastructure.<br>
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Best,<br>
Thomas<div><div><br>
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Thomas Eckart<br>
Natural Language Processing Group<br>
Department of Computer Science<br>
University of Leipzig<br>
Augustusplatz 10<br>
04109 Leipzig, Germany<br>
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