[Tf-aai] [tekstlab-post] checking interest in central discovery service with all eduGAIN IdPs

Thu Sep 12 17:59:04 CEST 2019

Hei Anders,

I got the message yesterday morning.

Best,
Paul

> Am 12.09.2019 um 16:36 schrieb Anders Nøklestad <anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no>:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> To answer the original question first: We currently support both DiscoJuice and discovery.clarin.eu <http://discovery.clarin.eu/>, and especially if DiscoJuice does not come back online, we would very much appreciate an extension of the CLARIN discovery service to all of eduGAIN. Thank you Dieter!
> 
> And with regards to the DiscoJuice problems: Thanks Paul! When did you get this message? I agree that it does not look very comforting. I am also quite surprised that they did not mention anything about this in the reply I got from them a two days ago (sorry about the Norwegian, everyone...):
> 
>>> Nå er det visst et DNS-relatert problem med cdn.discojuice.org <http://cdn.discojuice.org/>.
>> 
>> Din observasjon er korrekt, delegeringen av discojuice.org <http://discojuice.org/> er
>> (forhåpentligvis midlertidig) fjernet fra .ORG sonen.
>> 
>> Vi forsøker å sortere ut hva som må til for å rette problemet,
>> men det fins ingen "quick fix" er jeg redd.
> 
> I will ask them again whether they are actually trying to solve the problem given the reply you got.
> 
> Best,
> Anders
> 
>> 12. sep. 2019 kl. 16:07 skrev Paul Meurer <paul.meurer at uib.no <mailto:paul.meurer at uib.no>>:
>> 
>> Hei Anders,
>> 
>> that’s how I interpret the message I got from FEIDE-Support:
>> 
>> 
>>> Hei,
>>> 
>>> håper at Andreas har mulighet til å følge opp problemene med DiscoJuice-tjenesten videre, siden det kun er han som har tilgang til å oppdatere konfigurasjonen på domenenavnet. Tror at han har vært ute på reise, så usikker på når han får tid til det.
>>> 
>>> I forhold til alternativer, så har jeg lett litt, men finner ingen åpenbare tilsvarende løsninger. Tror derfor dere må se på å sette opp en egen intern tjeneste.
>>> 
>>> Vil sterkt oppfordre dere til å se på å gjøre det så kjapt som mulig; som du kanskje har sett på hvor lenge denne tjenesten har vært nede, så er det ikke en tjeneste vi har noe bra oppfølging på. Med tanke på hvor få som bruker den, så er det nok også lite sannsynlig at vi kommer til å legge noe arbeid i å få den mer tilgjengelig.
>>> 
>>> Mvh.
>>> Olav Morken
>>> Uninett / Feide
>> 
>> Best,
>> Paul
>> 
>>> Am 12.09.2019 um 15:59 schrieb Anders Nøklestad <anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no <mailto:anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no>>:
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> Paul: Do you have information that DiscoJuice is being discontinued? I know that the domain has been inaccessible for a few days now, but I was in contact with Uninett last week, and they said it seemed to be temporarily disabled and they were working on getting it back online.
>>> 
>>> Also, a few weeks ago their SSL certificate expired, which I contacted them about, and then they renewed it, which made the service work for a short while until this latter thing happened. It would seem surprising if they would renew the certificate and try to solve the DNS problem if they are about to discontinue the service (and not mention it to me), don't you think? Or did you get some other information from them?
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Anders
>>> 
>>> Anders Nøklestad, Tekstlaboratoriet, ILN
>>> Pb. 1102 Blindern, 0317 Oslo; besøksadr.: rom 631 Henrik Wergelands hus
>>> Tlf.: 22 84 40 42, faks: 22 85 69 19
>>> E-post: anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no <mailto:anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no>
>>> 
>>>> 12. sep. 2019 kl. 15:44 skrev Paul Meurer <paul.meurer at uib.no <mailto:paul.meurer at uib.no>>:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear Dieter,
>>>> 
>>>> we (clarino.uib.no <http://clarino.uib.no/>, Bergen) would be very much in favour of such a service. We have been using discovery.clarin.eu <http://discovery.clarin.eu/> for quite some time, and since support for DiscoJuice (https://engine.discojuice.org <https://engine.discojuice.org/>) at Feide/Uninett in Norway is now discontinued, discovery.clarin.eu <http://discovery.clarin.eu/> is now the only discovery service we are using. I am not sure how much we are loosing by not having eduGAIN, but my impression was that discovery.clarin.eu <http://discovery.clarin.eu/> already covers a large part of the eduGAIN IdPs. If that’s wrong I would have to look for some other javascriptable discovery service solution that can cover eduGAIN.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 12.09.2019 um 15:24 schrieb Dieter Van Uytvanck <dieter at clarin.eu <mailto:dieter at clarin.eu>>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> (I'm adding the AAI taskforce in CC)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Inspired by Jozef's question on slack about possible plans for a central
>>>>> CLARIN discovery service (as in discovery.clarin.eu <http://discovery.clarin.eu/>) with support for
>>>>> all eduGAIN IdPs, I would like to ask you if you would consider using
>>>>> such a service if it would exist.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on some overview I just collected (attached) this question is
>>>>> especially directed to:
>>>>> 
>>>>> ACDH-ARCHE (Vienna)
>>>>> CLARINSI (Ljubljana)
>>>>> FIN-CLARIN (Helsinki)
>>>>> ILC4CLARIN (Pisa)
>>>>> LAC (Cologne)
>>>>> LINDAT (Praha)
>>>>> NB.NO (Oslo)
>>>>> Sprakbanken (Göteborg)
>>>>> TextLab (Oslo)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Since these centres are currently connected to all eduGAIN IdPs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your feedback!
>>>>> 
>>>>> best regards,
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Dieter Van Uytvanck
>>>>> Technical Director CLARIN ERIC
>>>>> www.clarin.eu <http://www.clarin.eu/> | tel. +31-(0)850091363 | skype: dietervu.mpi
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